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The Big Questions - March 8

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  • Message 1.Ìý

    Posted by Essential Rabbit (U3613943) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    The immigration spokeswoman made an opening speech consisting of a string of falsehoods and false accusations, not one of which she could justify.
    For example her assertion that Britain is a nation of immigrants was ludicrous. The largest previous groups of immigrants, the Huguenots and Eastern European Jews, were tiny in proportion.
    And her use of the Vikings as a positive example of immigration was risible. Far from simple immigrants, they invaded Britain, killing and displacing large portions of the existing population. She should perhaps learn a little of our history.

    Yet she got a round of applause. It was later when we found out why. A show of hands clearly demonstrated that the producers of the programme had stacked the audience with a large majority of immigrants. The Â鶹Éç trying to manipulate perceived public opinion as usual.

    Throughout that section of the programme, not one person mentioned the completely unsustainable population increase in this already extremely over populated little island, and the progessive increasing destruction of what little remains of our environment.

    I'd also like to reassure the American woman that the reason a lot of people dislike her is *not* because she's an immigrant. smiley - smiley

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    Posted by zen cat chmeifyoucan (U14877400) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    The British Isles is completely inhabited by invaders, immigrants, and their descendents.

    Some arrived more recently than others.

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    Posted by Jol (U1706161) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    The only people who constantly bleat about the positivity of immigration (and there are plenty on these boards) - are those who don't have to deal with the negativity on a daily basis..........

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    Posted by Maxibaby (U14151672) ** on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    The immigration spokeswoman made an opening speech consisting of a string of falsehoods and false accusations, not one of which she could justify.
    For example her assertion that Britain is a nation of immigrants was ludicrous. The largest previous groups of immigrants, the Huguenots and Eastern European Jews, were tiny in proportion.
    And her use of the Vikings as a positive example of immigration was risible. Far from simple immigrants, they invaded Britain, killing and displacing large portions of the existing population. She should perhaps learn a little of our history.

    Yet she got a round of applause. It was later when we found out why. A show of hands clearly demonstrated that the producers of the programme had stacked the audience with a large majority of immigrants. The Â鶹Éç trying to manipulate perceived public opinion as usual.

    Throughout that section of the programme, not one person mentioned the completely unsustainable population increase in this already extremely over populated little island, and the progessive increasing destruction of what little remains of our environment.

    I'd also like to reassure the American woman that the reason a lot of people dislike her is *not* because she's an immigrant. smiley - smileyÌý
    I agree Rabbit. That audience was obviously stacked from the number who greeted the first statements from those in favour with rapturous applause. I would estimate at least 90-95% of the audience. The applause for those against, seemed to be about five people in total.

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  • Message 5

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    Posted by Stephen Jones - in our hearts we are Greenlanders (U1175342) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    Offensive rubbish. The Romans and Vikings invaded and occupied my country, killing my people and taking my people as slaves.

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    Posted by Hanger Lane (U15942806) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    The show of hands revealed what I have believed all along - that the audiences of programmes like the this and QT are stuffed full of lefties (students, social workers, teachers, trade unionists and the like). Anyone who dares to question the lunacy of uncontrolled mass immigration (like Peter Hitchens tried to do) is immediately shouted down and labelled as "racist".

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  • Message 7

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    Posted by zen cat chmeifyoucan (U14877400) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    Offensive rubbish. The Romans and Vikings invaded and occupied my country, killing my people and taking my people as slaves.Ìý
    And the British never invaded anywhere, of course.

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  • Message 8

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    Posted by Turner (U14992668) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    Offensive rubbishÌý
    Yes, this thread definitely is smiley - ok

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  • Message 9

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    Posted by Essential Rabbit (U3613943) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    Offensive rubbish. The Romans and Vikings invaded and occupied my country, killing my people and taking my people as slaves.Ìý
    And the British never invaded anywhere, of course.Ìý
    Whataboutery.

    It has no relevance to the use of the Viking invasion as an example of positive immigration.

    Unless you believe that what's left of the Aboriginal Australians and the Native Americans think that British invasion had a positive effect.

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  • Message 10

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    Posted by Hanger Lane (U15942806) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    Britain is a nation of immigrantsÌý

    You can almost guarantee that that fallacy is wheeled out everytime the Â鶹Éç "tries" to have a "debate" on immigration.

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  • Message 11

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    Posted by The Man Who Watched Telly (U15436784) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    The audience were a fair representation of the British public the majority of whom are not that bothered by immigration. If they were then surely anti immigration parties would be in government. They may well have concerns but they are not concerned enough to change their vote.

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  • Message 12

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    Posted by Johnnymol (U14690244) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    Romans, Vikings?........Sounds like it's turning into a debate about Time Team smiley - erm

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  • Message 13

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    Posted by Essential Rabbit (U3613943) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    Offensive rubbishÌý
    Yes, this thread definitely is smiley - okÌý
    Thank you for that thoughtful contribution.
    Perhaps you could try to give a cogent rebuttal of the views expressed, a justification for the falsehoods in the opening speech, and an explanation for the composition of the studio audience.

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  • Message 14

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    Posted by Turner (U14992668) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    Offensive rubbishÌý
    Yes, this thread definitely is smiley - okÌý
    Thank you for that thoughtful contribution.
    Perhaps you could try to give a cogent rebuttal of the views expressed, a justification for the falsehoods in the opening speech, and an explanation for the composition of the studio audience.Ìý

    What's the point? This tedious kind of thread appears with a tedious regularity on this board, and they always end up discussing the same tedious points.

    But if it keeps the 'usual suspects' occupied for a while, well, who am I to deny them, eh? smiley - ok

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  • Message 15

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    Posted by Johnnymol (U14690244) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    Offensive rubbishÌý
    Yes, this thread definitely is smiley - okÌý
    Thank you for that thoughtful contribution.
    Perhaps you could try to give a cogent rebuttal of the views expressed, a justification for the falsehoods in the opening speech, and an explanation for the composition of the studio audience.Ìý

    What's the point? This tedious kind of thread appears with a tedious regularity on this board, and they always end up discussing the same tedious points.

    But if it keeps the 'usual suspects' occupied for a while, well, who am I to deny them, eh? smiley - okÌý
    I'm in total agreement with you Turner - Some politically motivated threads have a sort of Groundhog Day quality about them.

    No doubt to reappear in a different guise as the election approaches

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  • Message 16

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    Posted by Celtic_Milwr (U14001791) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    Offensive rubbish. The Romans and Vikings invaded and occupied my country, killing my people and taking my people as slaves.Ìý Lets not forget the anglo Saxons!

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  • Message 17

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    Posted by Hanger Lane (U15942806) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    I'm in total agreement with you Turner - Some politically motivated threads have a sort of Groundhog Day quality about them.

    No doubt to reappear in a different guise as the election approachesÌý


    Well why don't you and Turner trot off to another thread then if you don't like the subject matter on this one?

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  • Message 18

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    Posted by zen cat chmeifyoucan (U14877400) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    Offensive rubbish. The Romans and Vikings invaded and occupied my country, killing my people and taking my people as slaves.Ìý
    And the British never invaded anywhere, of course.Ìý

    Whataboutery.

    It has no relevance to the use of the Viking invasion as an example of positive immigration.

    Unless you believe that what's left of the Aboriginal Australians and the Native Americans think that British invasion had a positive effect.Ìý

    I don't follow your reasoning about my comment.

    However, I would agree that the women who quoted the Vikings as an example of "immigration" was skating on thin ice. However, at this distance there are quite a lot of aspects of British culture which originated with the Vikings or the Romans which we can discuss without resorting to emotive language. Of course they weren't immigrants, they were invaders. 1066 and all that.

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  • Message 19

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    Posted by banjax (U14499510) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    What have the Romans ever done for us......

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  • Message 20

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    Posted by Essential Rabbit (U3613943) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    Offensive rubbishÌý
    Yes, this thread definitely is smiley - okÌý
    Thank you for that thoughtful contribution.
    Perhaps you could try to give a cogent rebuttal of the views expressed, a justification for the falsehoods in the opening speech, and an explanation for the composition of the studio audience.Ìý

    What's the point? This tedious kind of thread appears with a tedious regularity on this board, and they always end up discussing the same tedious points.

    But if it keeps the 'usual suspects' occupied for a while, well, who am I to deny them, eh? smiley - okÌý
    Your lack of a cogent response to the points raised has been noted.

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  • Message 21

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    Posted by Eridanis (U16055247) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    A very one-sided debate on Immigration this morning, and whatever your views are, the debate must have opposing views, which seemed to be absent today.

    Also the religious question on helping others was a total shambles....too much off-topic incessant waffling from some, and others unable to put their points of view because of this.
    Nicky Campbell ought to have brought the discussion back on topic and failed to do so.

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  • Message 22

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    Posted by Stephen Jones - in our hearts we are Greenlanders (U1175342) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    Offensive rubbish. The Romans and Vikings invaded and occupied my country, killing my people and taking my people as slaves.Ìý
    And the British never invaded anywhere, of course.Ìý
    Yes they obviously did and it was obviously wrong. Is anyone saying otherwise?

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  • Message 23

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    Posted by Turner (U14992668) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    Your lack of a cogent response to the points raised has been noted.Ìý
    If by 'lack of' you mean 'unwillingness to repeat for the 47,556th time', then yeah, you have a point smiley - ok

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  • Message 24

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    Posted by zen cat chmeifyoucan (U14877400) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    Offensive rubbish. The Romans and Vikings invaded and occupied my country, killing my people and taking my people as slaves.Ìý
    And the British never invaded anywhere, of course.Ìý

    Yes they obviously did and it was obviously wrong. Is anyone saying otherwise?Ìý

    There are indeed commentators who have the opinion that the British Empire was a good thing for the planet, and future generations will look back on the time when Britain ruled the World as a golden age.

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  • Message 25

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    Posted by Bethgem (U14263559) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    The point being missed here is that this era of free passage is an invited phenomenon and has nothing to do with previous eras mentioned.

    Our politicians have been taken hook, line and sinker in towing the line of another nation's bureaucracy (mentioning them here might get this post removed).

    Benefit seekers are a totally different type of immigrant.

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  • Message 26

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    Posted by jennyj (U15939066) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    Your lack of a cogent response to the points raised has been noted.Ìý
    If by 'lack of' you mean 'unwillingness to repeat for the 47,556th time', then yeah, you have a point smiley - okÌý
    Can you not summarise your own view of immigration in a few brief sentences? It would help others to see where you are coming from in terms of your criticism of those who doubt the value of continued immigration into this country (and Europe as a whole).

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  • Message 27

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    Posted by jennyj (U15939066) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    The audience were a fair representation of the British public the majority of whom are not that bothered by immigration. If they were then surely anti immigration parties would be in government. They may well have concerns but they are not concerned enough to change their vote.Ìý To my mind, there isn't really any party suitable to vote for, in terms of stopping all inward immigration, or at the least, massively reducing the number of immigrants.

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  • Message 28

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    Posted by jennyj (U15939066) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    The show of hands revealed what I have believed all along - that the audiences of programmes like the this and QT are stuffed full of lefties (students, social workers, teachers, trade unionists and the like). Anyone who dares to question the lunacy of uncontrolled mass immigration (like Peter Hitchens tried to do) is immediately shouted down and labelled as "racist".Ìý I'd consider myself a leftie, and it's for that very reason that I am anti-immigration. Increasing the number of people in the workforce simply helps employers keep wages low. Immigration does not benefit workers. It only benefits employers, and those who buy what employers produce.

    The left needs to be 'colour blind' when it comes to immigration, as it ties itself in knots over not being seen as 'racist'.

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  • Message 29

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    Posted by Johnnymol (U14690244) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    The audience were a fair representation of the British public the majority of whom are not that bothered by immigration. If they were then surely anti immigration parties would be in government. They may well have concerns but they are not concerned enough to change their vote.Ìý To my mind, there isn't really any party suitable to vote for, in terms of stopping all inward immigration, or at the least, massively reducing the number of immigrants.Ìý And maybe you could tell us what you would do with all the "immigrants" in this country who are working and paying taxes........Including some extremely rich immigrants living in London.

    How would the fall in tax revenue be prevented and how would the businesses in the UK make up the loss of income from immigrants working and living legally in this country


    Poor old Nigel Farage will have to send his German wife back to Germany, and the German based Royal Family would also have a few problems not to mention a very Greek Duke

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  • Message 30

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    Posted by muskadash (U16206734) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    The audience were a fair representation of the British public the majority of whom are not that bothered by immigration. If they were then surely anti immigration parties would be in government. They may well have concerns but they are not concerned enough to change their vote.Ìý Actually about 80% of the population wants immigration radically cut - including immigrants from previous decades who are dismayed at the non-stop influx going on now.

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  • Message 31

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    Posted by Turner (U14992668) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    Your lack of a cogent response to the points raised has been noted.Ìý
    If by 'lack of' you mean 'unwillingness to repeat for the 47,556th time', then yeah, you have a point smiley - okÌý
    Can you not summarise your own view of immigration in a few brief sentences? It would help others to see where you are coming from in terms of your criticism of those who doubt the value of continued immigration into this country (and Europe as a whole).Ìý

    Here you go:



    My contributions to the thread start at post 64 (that is if your interest in my views on immigration is genuine, as opposed to mere diversion tactic - which seems unlikely, since you and I have debated this ad nauseam on many, many threads, including the one I've linked to)

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  • Message 32

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    Posted by muskadash (U16206734) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    What they never debate on these mainstream programmes is that it's deliberate, to break down national identity and cohesion so that they can bring in their world government....this is why it is happening in every western nation and why no-one is stopping it...and if anyone thinks that's 'tinfoil hat' stuff....the globalists tell us in their own words what they are doing.

    “For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure--one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.â€
    ― globalist banker David Rockefeller.

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    Posted by Essential Rabbit (U3613943) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    None of which addresses the point of my OP, which you merely dismissed as "offensive rubbish", wondering why the spokesperson's opening speech, which consisted almost entirely of falsehoods, was greeted with applause.
    Other than the fact that, when she asked for immigrants to raise their hands, far more than half the people in the audience did so. Not very representative at all.

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  • Message 34

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    Posted by Turner (U14992668) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    It wasn't the specific point you made about the programme that I called offensive rubbish (I didn't watch) but the usual tropes, lazy generalisations about immigration and nonsensical conclusions in subsequent posts.

    As Johnny said above: Groundhog Day territory, and as such, not worth addressing again.

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  • Message 35

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    Posted by Essential Rabbit (U3613943) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    It wasn't the specific point you made about the programme that I called offensive rubbishÌý
    My OP was made up entirely of specific points about the programme!
    So, having not even seen what I was posting about, I find your description of the thread as "offensive rubbish" quite offensive really.

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  • Message 36

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    Posted by Bethgem (U14263559) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    The audience were a fair representation of the British public the majority of whom are not that bothered by immigration. If they were then surely anti immigration parties would be in government. They may well have concerns but they are not concerned enough to change their vote.Ìý To my mind, there isn't really any party suitable to vote for, in terms of stopping all inward immigration, or at the least, massively reducing the number of immigrants.Ìý And maybe you could tell us what you would do with all the "immigrants" in this country who are working and paying taxes........Including some extremely rich immigrants living in London.

    How would the fall in tax revenue be prevented and how would the businesses in the UK make up the loss of income from immigrants working and living legally in this country


    Poor old Nigel Farage will have to send his German wife back to Germany, and the German based Royal Family would also have a few problems not to mention a very Greek DukeÌý
    Don't be ridiculous! I have not heard anyone say they want to return all migrants back to their homeland. What a daft thing to suggest!

    We have no qualm against those who have worked their way up the career ladder, why would anyone? Some of us owe their lives to them.

    The immigrants making the news now are those who are illegal, uninvited, jobless, desperate and waiting across the channel to get here by hook or by crook, no prospects and some of them are criminals.

    The open border situation is attracting them to our free services, which they have not contributed to, and so on and so forth. We have heard all the arguments about this and the details remain the same. Freeloaders are not welcome here.

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  • Message 37

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    Posted by Charley Farley (U13513932) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    It wasn't the specific point you made about the programme that I called offensive rubbishÌý
    My OP was made up entirely of specific points about the programme!
    So, having not even seen what I was posting about, I find your description of the thread as "offensive rubbish" quite offensive really.Ìý
    Everything you wrote is true Rabbit and I fully agree with you.

    In the face of overwhelming evidence of the far left bias of programmes such as QT and BQ's you still get people trying to say that the audiences are a fair representation of the public.

    The example you gave and the lone voice of Peter Hitchens, the only one talking sense, proves this. The same for QT when the programme was held in Clacton when UKIP won the by-election with a huge majority and Dimbleby asked if there were any UKIP supporters in the audience.....silence followed.

    I can't understand why anyone would support the 3 parties who are enabling race replacement but shows like these and the msm in general are doing a fantastic job of brainwashing the general public.

    The indigenous population is predicted by many to be the minority sometime around 2060 so I hope your children are preparing for a very different life under the religion which cannot be named.

    I expect this to be moderated (censored) soon but it is all true.

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  • Message 38

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    Posted by Bethgem (U14263559) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    Hope your post is not censored, Charley. I'm glad I read it. smiley - ok

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  • Message 39

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    Posted by muskadash (U16206734) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    Who was the American woman, it wasn't Bonnie Greer, was it? She always gets wheeled out when they have an immigration 'debate'.

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  • Message 40

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    Posted by muskadash (U16206734) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    By the way...this country will never be a 'muslim' country....they are just the means by which the elite are breaking up the nation and manipulating people into giving up their rights and liberties...when they have served their purpose they will have their culture destroyed too...as ours has been...by the globalist ruling class.

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  • Message 41

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    Posted by Johnnymol (U14690244) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    The audience were a fair representation of the British public the majority of whom are not that bothered by immigration. If they were then surely anti immigration parties would be in government. They may well have concerns but they are not concerned enough to change their vote.Ìý To my mind, there isn't really any party suitable to vote for, in terms of stopping all inward immigration, or at the least, massively reducing the number of immigrants.Ìý And maybe you could tell us what you would do with all the "immigrants" in this country who are working and paying taxes........Including some extremely rich immigrants living in London.

    How would the fall in tax revenue be prevented and how would the businesses in the UK make up the loss of income from immigrants working and living legally in this country


    Poor old Nigel Farage will have to send his German wife back to Germany, and the German based Royal Family would also have a few problems not to mention a very Greek DukeÌý
    Don't be ridiculous! I have not heard anyone say they want to return all migrants back to their homeland. What a daft thing to suggest!

    We have no qualm against those who have worked their way up the career ladder, why would anyone? Some of us owe their lives to them.

    The immigrants making the news now are those who are illegal, uninvited, jobless, desperate and waiting across the channel to get here by hook or by crook, no prospects and some of them are criminals.

    The open border situation is attracting them to our free services, which they have not contributed to, and so on and so forth. We have heard all the arguments about this and the details remain the same. Freeloaders are not welcome here.Ìý
    You say my post is ridiculous Beth and yet you gave a very clear smiley - ok to Charley and his views about "race replacement" and about a certain religion taking over

    So I would be interested in how you would stop the population and religious views increasing - After all UK citizens of a particular religion will increase the population without the help of Britains current immigration policy, but does that mean they will be our enemy - Even you say we owe our lives to immigrants - I suppose that includes those who fought for freedom and who came from that particular religion

    Perhaps you've scared yourself in the same way people in America were scared of Reds under the bed by McCarthyism

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    Posted by muskadash (U16206734) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    I live in London and it's almost like living in a foreign country. I sit on the bus and all I hear is foreign languages. Looking out the window you see that every shop, for miles, is owned by foreigners. Even the street entertainers are all foreign. The 'native' Londoners have been completely obliterated from their own city. No-one is against controlled immigration but what we are experiencing is just insanity, how can anyone continue to justify it.

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  • Message 43

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    Posted by Tom Adustus (U9467814) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    The immigration spokeswoman made an opening speech consisting of a string of falsehoods and false accusations, not one of which she could justify.
    For example her assertion that Britain is a nation of immigrants was ludicrous. The largest previous groups of immigrants, the Huguenots and Eastern European Jews, were tiny in proportion.
    And her use of the Vikings as a positive example of immigration was risible. Far from simple immigrants, they invaded Britain, killing and displacing large portions of the existing population. She should perhaps learn a little of our history.

    Yet she got a round of applause. It was later when we found out why. A show of hands clearly demonstrated that the producers of the programme had stacked the audience with a large majority of immigrants. The Â鶹Éç trying to manipulate perceived public opinion as usual.

    Throughout that section of the programme, not one person mentioned the completely unsustainable population increase in this already extremely over populated little island, and the progessive increasing destruction of what little remains of our environment.

    I'd also like to reassure the American woman that the reason a lot of people dislike her is *not* because she's an immigrant. smiley - smileyÌý



    Very true.

    The Â鶹Éç does not represent the interests of real British people. It has given up on balance where it considers it would be politically incorrect.

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  • Message 44

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    Posted by Charley Farley (U13513932) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    I live in London and it's almost like living in a foreign country. I sit on the bus and all I hear is foreign languages. Looking out the window you see that every shop, for miles, is owned by foreigners. Even the street entertainers are all foreign. The 'native' Londoners have been completely obliterated from their own city. No-one is against controlled immigration but what we are experiencing is just insanity, how can anyone continue to justify it.Ìý It's called 'White flight'

    Those whose are feeling isolated in the communities where they grew up are leaving as the area is taken over by a sort of snowball effect. As more 'new' families move in the original inhabitants move out which leads to more 'new' families which leads to more moving out and so on until the area is taken over. It has happened in many towns and cities and they next become 'no go' areas.

    Another cliche which is being used more often is 'Conquest by womb'

    This is the far higher birthrate of the 'new' families compared to the original folk.

    Bob Dylan made fashionable statements in his songs supporting immigrants which I fully agreed with but the last 15 years has been far too much and has turned me into what the pc lot would call a racist.

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    Posted by muskadash (U16206734) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    You have to remember though who threw open the borders, invited them, allowed them all to come, gave them money / jobs, and jumped on anyone who spoke up about it: the super-rich people who control the governments.

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  • Message 46

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    Posted by Bethgem (U14263559) on Sunday, 8th March 2015

    You say my post is ridiculous Beth and yet you gave a very clear smiley - ok to Charley and his views about "race replacement" and about a certain religion taking overÌý Sorry Johnnymol. I do not see how Charley was agreeing with the oncoming years of "a certain religion taking over". On the contrary, he was predicting what our future children will have to be prepared for. Read below, again, and see what is meant by what he says.

    Charley Farley said:
    I can't understand why anyone would support the 3 parties who are enabling race replacement but shows like these and the msm in general are doing a fantastic job of brainwashing the general public.

    The indigenous population is predicted by many to be the minority sometime around 2060 so I hope your children are preparing for a very different life under the religion which cannot be named.

    I expect this to be moderated (censored) soon but it is all true.Ìý
    I replied: Hope your post is not censored, Charley. I'm glad I read it. smiley - okÌý There is nothing wrong with that. I agree with Charley smiley - ok

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  • Message 47

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    Posted by bootjangler (U880875) on Monday, 9th March 2015

    For example her assertion that Britain is a nation of immigrants was ludicrous. The largest previous groups of immigrants, the Huguenots and Eastern European Jews, were tiny in proportion. Ìý


    There's true stuff in the assertion that Britain is a mix of immigrants over a very long time.
    There is also absolute falsehood (as she and others imply), that nothing has changed (in how immigration happens now). Hitchens was right to point out that previous immigration was nowhere near on the scale of recent immigration.

    That is where the stupid lie is. Yes, we have always had some sort of immigration, but nowhere on the scale of recent years. I wish people would at least recognise that fact.

    Plus the very dumb point of, "take away immigration and the transport system and NHS would fall apart." Yes, people were needed post war, but it is not a real equivalence with anything.

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    Posted by Stephen Jones - in our hearts we are Greenlanders (U1175342) on Monday, 9th March 2015

    How many sick Filipino people have died because most of their health workers are over here? Murdered by the British far left in effect.

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    Posted by Prophet Tenebrae (U5995226) on Monday, 9th March 2015

    How many sick Filipino people have died because most of their health workers are over here? Murdered by the British far left in effect.Ìý Blaming the "far left" (who haven't been so much as near the reigns of power in over a generation) for the free market?

    That makes total sense.

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    Posted by Stephen Jones - in our hearts we are Greenlanders (U1175342) on Monday, 9th March 2015

    The far left mentality and thinking that has poisoned this society so that people think it's acceptable to let would be British health workers, who want to do some good, rot on the dole and instead steal another
    country's health workers.

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