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Retirement of the space shuttle is a good thing. They've been around for a while and quiet frankly are a bit old.

However, the U.S. is sagging behind as far as space exploration is concerned. Congress needs to stop with making pay rases for themselves and give NASA more funding. After all NASA has rocket scientists. And Congress is full of useless people.

What was it that Thomas Jefferson said I believe "One useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a Congress."

He's definantly right.

Give more funding to NASA and stop spending it on useless ear marks and then coplaining that there is no money.

At least NASA makes discoveries, Congress is useless.

Also Congress need to stop micro managing NASA. An NASA should make sure all projects that aim developed new vehicles and technology are structure similarly to the COTS programme and eliminate the costs plus profits projects that have led to nothing but failures over the years and are usually way over budget.

I am wondering whether there are any British companies involve on maintaining and decommissioning satelites.

Nothing to do with this topic but why on Earth has the BBc chosen to associate the SETI program with UFO hunting? They even use an image of flying saucers here:

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This is total misrepresentation of an important scientific endeavour, come on Jonathan please have a word with your colleagues!

The aliens are among us, have you seen Ed Milliband? Lets not even mention Cameron, though a certain Charlie Brooker joke comes to mind, or a line from one of my favorite movies "Casey doesn't have emotions Ripley because she's just made of plastic."

On topic. These missions are definitely the slow evolution of space technology but are very interesting nonetheless. The idea of refueling and repairing satellites on orbit has been around since about the time of Apollo but the idea of it actually hapening is very sci fi in a nice kind of way. I remember how incredibly painful NASA's first attempts at satellite repair were, in so many ways things really have come on a very long way.

Its really only a step away from the old idea of space taxi's.
With the cost of putting things in orbit its always struck me what a waste it is to de-orbit them so extending the lifetime of any system is a wonderful thing. Maybe even the junk that cant be reused directly could be put into a 'scrapyard' zone or orbit for later reuse or recycling.

Apart from anything else if we are ever to build say a space elevator the counterweight has a need for hundreds or thousands of tons of ballast. It ultimately needs to go into a very high orbit but the geostationary orbit is over half way there and (I believe) is the best starting point for the construction phase.

Oh just rereading the article, about a decade ago I did some work on things like robot arms catching (my background is really Strong AI). Yes the arm has to have a way of avoiding rigidity. In my case I used an an algorithm on each joint with a closed loop between a force sensor and motor so that as the arm started to flex the motor would constantly rotate the joint to compensate. Effectively it created an artificial muscle by allowing the joint to rotate flexibly and frictionlessly like a real muscle, allowing the use of a relatively cheap and simple rigid joint and gearbox system.
The only problem being that if it lost power or anything went wrong the whole thing would instantly lock rigid. Not a very good behavior because a power failure would lead to falling over, at the same time locking the joints rigid at the worst time possible.

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There is one which could potentially rule that sort of work, gaining a virtual monoply if it passes the upcoming tests: Skylon.

It is designed to relaunch two days after landing, it uses runways and it single stage. It has the potential to be able to clean up the junk in space and bring healthy satalites down if in need of more extensive repair and return them as soon as they are fixed.

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Congress has little interest in space they just see it as a huge waste of money. However no one wants to be known as the Senator / President who killed it. As a result they keep sending Nasa off on fools errands. Go to the Moon, no orbit, no the Moon, how about Mars?

As a result Nasa's history is strewn with failures, they got to the moon, but at such a cost it was not possible to stay there, they built a 'space plane' but it was expensive and unreliable, they tried to go back to the moon by copying what they did the first time, but found no one remembered how they did it the first time.

Hopefully Nasa's new mission which is to use it's hugely talented people to develop new space technologies will finally mean a turn around in Nasa's fortunes.

In fact one of the new technologies they have been tasked with is the creation of new drive mechanisms. Nasa has made huge advances in Ion and Anti matter drives. This could be hugely advantages not just for long range missions but for keeping satellites in orbit. This would be hugely advantageous to the Satellite industry.

Chemical rockets, good as the modern ones may be, are very inefficient.

Sometimes spending money on things people think of as 'a waste of money' is hugely lucrative. Just look at Chris Columbus. I bet a fare few people said that was a waste of money.

See I was on topic after all!

Just saw the video sim for refuelling satellites.What a dog's dinner!A bit of foresight and consensus on the part of the 'community' of satellite designers would have made refuelling a simple,standardised task that wouldn't have posed any problems for a ZX Spectrum and saved billions of pounds.It is also clearly cheaper to refuel and/or re-equip an existing satellite than it is to build a new one and put it into orbit.
Domestic plug sockets and mains electricity are standardised for VERY good reasons.The same logic clearly applies here.Too many 'experts' spoil the broth,I guess!An avoidable problem produced by the vulgar,archaic organisational architecture of academia and companies,yet paid for by all of us.Disappointingly predictable!

#chippysteve et al, foresight is something lacking in almost every branch of modern science and tech.

Remember the millennium bug? that was caused by a huge simple lack of foresight. In the end nothing really happened but that was only because they spent years and millions (billions?) of dollars fixing everything and just in time. If they hadn't every PC in the world would have crashed as its clock reset to 1900 - along with telecoms systems, networks systems, military systems, satellites, and on and on.
The whole climate change thing was caused by an even bigger lack of foresight in planning things like oil production or the development of real carbon free energy like fusion, more advanced fission, advanced solar, bio-cycle fuels, gasification, etc. Or then there's efficiency improvements in electric grids like DC super high voltage, research on superconducting wires, or at the opposite end CHP systems and generation localization that do away with the problem altogether. Where was the foresight made to focus money and research on any of these even though we knew the problem was serious as long ago as the mid seventies!!

Most of the biggest and worst places where we are lacking foresight are on the really big things. For instance there seems to be little no real foresight or planning at all in the overall direction in our future in space and space technology. As it is there is plenty of development but little or none of it is moving outside the scope of what we're already doing. If we are serious about ever achieving larger scale mass access to space or developing more advanced technologies then things need to change. The irony is that it often actually ends up being cheaper to do more, for instance with a more advanced engine tech a manned trip to Mars could be done on a budget of about 5 to 10 billion and then repeated for 1 to 2 billion. The money is there but it never moves in the right directions - there are plans are out there but the money yet again is flowing into the development of yet more new rockets on the same old pattern. (I remind everyone that TODAYS rockets are one of the stupidest least efficient inventions ever concieved, achieving a general overall efficiency of about 5% with 90%+ of the system being single use only.)

For the future the number one goal must be access to orbit, but most of the technologies that could genuinely advance things get little or no funding. - Advanced closed cycle gas core nuclear rocket lifters, - advanced chemical rocket lifters (eg SSTO Skylon, or the super scale Sea Dragon), elevators or Lofstrom loops (launch loops), laser lifters, even a second generation reusable Shuttle.

Nearer the fringe or the edge are things like gravity engines/mass recyclers, people laugh at the idea but these kind of things only remain impossible because no one will take the idea seriously until someone else gets it to work. I like to work in this area as an amateur but the most likely routes to success all require things way beyond any amateur today. A primary path is in 'neutronium condensate solids' but not only does it require a huge complex lab setup but a source of a lot of free neutrons like a high power nuclear reactor. And add to that if it could be made and kept stable a neutronium solid could be seen as creating a whole new class of nuclear bombs - and we can all imagine the kind of difficulties that would create. :)

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An even more extreme possibility -at least for outer solar system manned missions is 'robotization'. People are already talking about one way Mars missions, robotization simply takes that a step further and offers the possibility of bringing the crew home. The essential idea is the one seen in the film Robocop, a persons brain and CNS is removed intact from their body and placed in an artificial life support system with the nervous connections interfaced electronically to an external waldo body and other systems. Some parts of it are unbelievably complicated but preserving a living brain is already basically possible.
Why do all this? because a brain weighs a few kilograms, its life support a few tens of kilograms, it uses far less resources and energy than a full person, but best of all it can potentially be shut down for most of the trip without the huge complications normally associated with months spent awake in a confined space. Who would or might volunteer? - maybe people who are already paralyzed, people who are already on the verge of death from disease or cancer or something else, or people simply willing to make the sacrifice for the price of seeing the outer system. (Through most of the 90's I worked in Strong AI and was looking at this from the other side but it was always fascinating wondering if ... )