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Kammy and Ben are joined by the former Brighton, Palace and Bournemouth striker Glenn Murray and you can listen to it first on 麻豆社 Sounds.

Which manager does he call crazy and which a wizard? Who told him he was the fifth of the club's five strikers? And who asked him to coach his own replacement? He also gives his view on why Graham Potter didn't work out at Chelsea, why he and Eddie Howe didn't get on at Bournemouth and does he reveal who left an unpleasant surprise in the Palace dressing room ahead of a big game at Brighton?

Meanwhile, Kammy recalls launching a laundry basket in anger and decides whether a listener who can't remember the set piece instructions deserves absolution or penance in Father Kammy. If you want to share your guilty secret, e-mail us at kammyandben@bbc.co.uk or contact the guys on Twitter: @chris_kammy @BenShephard with #fatherkammy.

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