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What's it like being a new mum when you don't have a new-born baby, but an adopted three or four year old? How easy is it to make friends with other families who have birth children and where do you go when everything doesn't go to plan? Jane Garvey is joined by Emma and Anne, two Woman's Hour Parenting Podcast listeners who have adopted children and John Simmonds, Director of Policy at the adoption charity, Coram.