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All of us fervently want to believe the worst of the coronavirus pandemic is over. Governments around the world are easing lockdowns and focusing on economic recovery. But Covid-19 hasn't gone away. Infection rates are rising in Latin America, parts of the US and Africa. HARDtalk's Stephen Sackur speaks to the internationally renowned epidemiologist Ian Lipkin, the scientific advisor for the movie Contagion which 9 years ago predicted a scenario uncannily like this one. Are we getting the real-life pandemic response right?