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Michael Grade freely admits he comes from a very privileged background, mainly because his grandparents took an enormous risk in fleeing from the Ukraine at the turn of the century and making a better life for their family in England. Michael has never had to take risks but he's fascinated by those who do and in this series of One to One he wants to talk to people who have risked everything for very different reasons.

In this programme he talks to Kolbassia Haoussou who fled from Chad leaving home, family and friends behind. He now lives here, in a country where the culture, climate and landscape are very alien and he still feels like an outsider. Has it all been worth it?

Kolbassia is now a spokesperson for Freedom from Torture, but why did he decide to take the unprecedented and very risky step of returning to Chad to check up on his family?

Producer: Lucy Lunt.