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Kenneth Lyon
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Message 1.Â
Posted by Bessiebennett (U14200483) on Sunday, 4th December 2011
Does anyone have any info: please,regarding a Kenneth Lyon, born in Rainhill to William Lyon,Glass Bottle manufacturer, and Jessie Lyon. The family moved to Birkenhead about 1900. I am trying to discover his marriage, if he had childen and when he died. He is a distant relation who, according to storie I was told, was awarded a medal in the 1914 war.
Bessie -
Message 2
Posted by clematised (U3233879) on Sunday, 4th December 2011
Births Dec 1906 (>99%)
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Lyon Kenneth Gordon W. Derby 8b 702
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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Births Mar 1886 (>99%)
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LYON Kenneth Prescot 8b 760
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Sep 1884 (>99%)
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COOK Jessie Ellenor Prescot 8b 1018
Lyon William Prescot 8b 1018
Ridyard Martha Elizabeth Ormskirk 8b 1018
Stott Joseph Thomas Prescot 8b 1018
Whitfield Mary Elizabeth Prescot 8b 1018
Possible births and parent marriage
Edna -
Message 3
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Sunday, 4th December 2011
British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
about Kenneth Lyon Name: Kenneth Lyon
Regiment or Corps: RHA,Royal Field Artillery,RA
Regimental Number: 130726,130726,130726
He was a 2nd Lieut. and Captain , and though I don't know all the terminology on the original ( On Ance..... I see theres a VM written on the top , which may mean Victoria Medal I'll look for a Service record for him -
Message 4
Posted by clematised (U3233879) on Sunday, 4th December 2011
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
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Marriages Sep 1934 (>99%)
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Binger Eileen D Lyon Liverpool 8b 14 >>>>>>>>>>
Lyon Kenneth G Binger Liverpool 8b 14 >>>>>>>>>>
Wagstaff Edith M Wash Liverpool 8b 14
Wash John G Wagstaff Liverpool 8b 14
Looks like this could be the marriage
Edna -
Message 5
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Sunday, 4th December 2011
1911 still single with parents in Kent
LYON, William Head Married
26 years M 49 1862 Agent St Anns Lancs
LYON, Jessie Ellenor Wife Married
26 years F 49 1862 Farnworth Lancs
LYON, Kenneth Son Single M 25 1886 Civil Servant Higher Dev Clerk Rainhill Lancs
FEAST, Kate Servant Single F 20 1891 General Servant Domestic Edenbridge Kent
Address:
Home Croft Lydens Farm Eden Bridge Kent -
Message 6
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Sunday, 4th December 2011
Possibly him
Name: Kenneth Lyon
Birth Date: abt 1886
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1956
Age at Death: 70
Registration district: North Walsham
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 440
I couldn't see any WW1 service records for him , -
Message 7
Posted by clematised (U3233879) on Sunday, 4th December 2011
3 sons all born between jun 1936 and sept 1939 to Kenneth and Eileen Lyon but cant give details as possible living people but you can find them on FreeBMD
Edna -
Message 8
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Sunday, 4th December 2011
From the names given on message 1 I think this is Kenneth in 1891 , which would make him a bit old for the births in the 1930s ( tho not impossible )
Name: Kenneth Lyon
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Lyon
Mother's Name: Jessie E Lyon
Gender: Male
Where born: Rainhill, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Rainhill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Ann
Town: Rainhill
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image
Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: Prescot
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3015
Folio: 7
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
William Lyon 29
Jessie E Lyon 29
Kenneth Lyon 5
Morice Lyon 3
Margret Green 24
Louisa Green 11
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3015; Folio 7; Page 7; GSU roll: 6098125 -
Message 9
Posted by Bashfuljan157 (U5893214) on Sunday, 4th December 2011
Bessie
There are 2 trees on Ance............. thst have Kenneth Lyon on them , and a pic of him and some info re his career as a Civil Servant ( appears to have been a top CS ) The tree is the Letton tree -
Message 10
Posted by Bessiebennett (U14200483) on Sunday, 4th December 2011
This looks like him. My father told me that he had been awarded a High medal for bravery.
I wonder if he returned from the war and what became of him?
I think he is a nephew of my Great grand father.
Thanks fo your help. -
Message 11
Posted by raundsgirl (U2992430) on Monday, 5th December 2011
I looked on www.cwgc.org (the Commonwealth War Graves site) and he did not show up on a search, so he presumably survived and may be the one found by Jan, with a distinguished career in the Civil Service.
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Message 12
Posted by Bessiebennett (U14200483) on Friday, 9th December 2011
Thanks. I think it is the one found by Jan.
Bessie -
Message 13
Posted by Bessiebennett (U14200483) on Friday, 9th December 2011
Thanks. He is the one.
Bessie -
Message 14
Posted by Bessiebennett (U14200483) on Friday, 9th December 2011
Thanks. I am not sure of his marriage.
Bessie -
Message 15
Posted by Bessiebennett (U14200483) on Friday, 9th December 2011
Thanks, I did not expect to find him in Kent being a Lancashire lad.
Bassie -
Message 16
Posted by Bessiebennett (U14200483) on Friday, 9th December 2011
I really don't know where he ended up but I have reinforced my knowledge of his Army history which was my intention.
I have so many false stories that have been told to me by relations that I did not believe the VC one.
I am grate full for the help received from all on Â鶹ÉçFH.
Bessie -
Message 17
Posted by silvery (U8422462) on Friday, 9th December 2011
I don't think it was the VC that he got,
VM is more likely to be the Victoria Medal, looks like quite a few had them.
Nice though.
quick google
The British War Medal was the most widely awarded of the service medals with almost seven million going into circulation. There are vagaries with the issue criteria however the core qualification is that the man or woman entered a theatre of war on duty or left their place of residence and rendered approved service overseas other than on the waters dividing the different parts of the United Kingdom between 5th August 1914 and 11th November 1918 inclusive. There were also some extensions of eligibility beyond 11/11/1918, service in Russia during 1919-20 for example.
The British Victory Medal. Qualification criteria are not the same as for the BWM and there were reputedly about 3/4 of a million fewer VM's issued, though that is mainly a naval matter and does not really affect the research aspect of the Army "general service" medal records. (It was not possible to be awarded the Victory Medal unless you also had BWM qualification and all recipients of ether the 1914 or 1914-15 Star automatically qualified for the BW & V Medals).
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