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Message 1.Â
Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Saturday, 26th November 2011
Can someone look at the original census for the name of Mary's father, I can't read it perhaps someone with better eyes than I have can.
Thank you.
1871 census-
KINGCOME, ??? Head F 52 1819 Middlesex
KINGCOME, Mary Dunbar Daughter F 15 1856 Gloucestershire
KINGCOME, Mary Mother F 77 1794 Berkshire
PASK, James M Nephew M 23 1848 Middlesex
CHAMBERLAIN, James Shopman M 22 1849 Berkshire
NICHOLLS, Emeric O Shopman M 23 1848 Cornwall
ATKINSON, Thomas Shopman M 22 1849 Middlesex
BAMFIELD, Joseph Robert Shopman M 19 1852 Gloucestershire
HATHERLY, James Shopman M 17 1854 Gloucestershire
DODD, Eleanor Shopwoman F 34 1837 Wiltshire
SMEETON, Sophia Shopwoman F 25 1846 Middlesex
ADAMS, Eliza Shopwoman F 22 1849 Gloucestershire
LANGLEY, Mary Shopwoman F 21 1850 Somerset
EVANS, Ada Apprentice F 15 1856 Middlesex
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Piece:
2539 Folio:
28 Page:
48 Registration District:
Clifton
Civil Parish:
Clifton Municipal Borough:
Bristol Address:
Belmont House, Clifton, Bristol County:
Gloucestershire -
Message 2
Posted by Small Town Girl (U1483784) on Saturday, 26th November 2011
The head of the household is female. A*y has her as "Roas Gloyd". I can't read the first name v.clearly, but her second one is surely Lloyd.
Will see if I can find her on other census records.
She's listed as "married" rather than "widowed", so husband obviously not at home that night.
STG -
Message 3
Posted by Small Town Girl (U1483784) on Saturday, 26th November 2011
What about this marriage ?
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Marriages Sep 1854 (>99%)
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Kingcome John Clifton 6a 237
VILLIERS Rosa Lloyd Clifton 6a 237 -
Message 4
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Saturday, 26th November 2011
It's her mother - can;t read the first but this middle is Lloyd
How about this person?
Name: Rosa Lloyd Kingcome
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1903
Age at Death: 85
Registration district: Hendon
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 100
Looking back it could be written Reas -
Message 5
Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Saturday, 26th November 2011
This is the 1851 census I believe Mary and Richard are Mary (born 1855) parents, but they are very elderly.
KINGCOME, Richard Head Married M 56 1795 Ship Broker
Revelstoke
Devonshire
KINGCOME, Mary Wife Married F 57 1794
Knighton
Berkshire
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Piece:
1879 Folio:
824 Page:
41 Registration District:
Plymouth
Civil Parish:
Saint Andrew Municipal Borough:
Plymouth Address:
24, New Street, Saint Andrew, Plymouth County:
Devonshire -
Message 6
Posted by jc (U1902680) on Saturday, 26th November 2011
It only says Kingcome, the other name is crossed out...
that is Chas Lloyd ...?
Being a Millener and dressmaker, I suspect thats not her father but mother and the enumerator made an error -
Message 7
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Saturday, 26th November 2011
Here they are in 1891 - the ages are all to pot and Mary Kingcombe is actually Mrs Hewlett
Elizabeth Villiers is listed as sister of the head -
Message 8
Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Saturday, 26th November 2011
Mary Kingcome on 1861 census no parents listed:-
KINGCOME, Mary Daughter F 5 1856 Scholar
Clifton
Gloucestershire
PASK, Ellen Niece F 15 1846 Scholar
Brixton
Surrey
COLLENS, Eliz Assistant Unmarried F 23 1838 Milliner
Bristol
LAMBERT, Anne Assistant Unmarried F 20 1841 Milliner
Ireland
NICHOLS, Cath Assistant Unmarried F 22 1839 Milliner
Newport
Monmouthshire
NICHOLS, Sophia Visitor Unmarried F 17 1844 Milliner
Newport
Monmouthshire
HYETT, Ellen Servant Unmarried F 24 1837 House Servant
...
Gloucestershire
GREY, Rachel Servant Unmarried F 22 1839 House Servant
Swansea
Gloucestershire
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Piece:
1725 Folio:
11 Page:
17 Registration District:
Clifton
Civil Parish:
Clifton Municipal Borough:
Bristol Address:
2, Belmont, Clifton, Bristol County:
Gloucestershire -
Message 9
Posted by jc (U1902680) on Saturday, 26th November 2011
this might help
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name: Mary Dunbar Kingcome
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1855
Christening Date: 27 Jul 1855
Christening Place: Clifton, Gloucestershire, England
Father's Name: John Kingcome
Mother's Name: Rosa Lloyd -
Message 10
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Saturday, 26th November 2011
Whoops - forgot to add the entry!
Name: Rosa L Kingcome
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: W C, London, England
Civil parish: Willesden
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Hendon
Sub-registration district: Willesden
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1044
Folio: 152
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Rosa L Kingcome 43
Mary D Kingcome 23
Frederic R Hewlett 43
Francis R Hewlett 14
Rosa M Hewlett 15
Florence R Hewlett 11
Philip R Hewlett 9
Elizabeth D Villiers 75
Elizabeth M Parker 17
Mary E Salman 27
Annie Davies 21
Louisa Eades 15 -
Message 11
Posted by jc (U1902680) on Saturday, 26th November 2011
marriage
Name: John Kingcome
Event: MARRIAGE
Event Date: 09 Sep 1854
Event Place: Clifton, St Andrew, Gloucestershire, England
Marital Status: Single
Father: Richard Kingcome
Spouse: Rosa Lloyd Villiers
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Father: John Villiers Film Number: 4189164
Digital Folder Number: 4189164
Image Number: 00228
Name: John Kingcome
Event: BURIAL
Event Date: 10 Dec 1880
Event Place: Clifton, St Andrew, Gloucestershire, England
Gender:
Age: 51
Film Number: 4185852
Digital Folder Number: 4185852
Image Number: 00152 -
Message 12
Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Saturday, 26th November 2011
I think I need the birth cert to sort this out as its a rather messy one, especially with all the milliners
She did marry a chap called Hewitt.
Mary survived the sinking of the Titanic which she sailed on to visit one of her sons and died at another sons home in India.
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Message 13
Posted by jc (U1902680) on Saturday, 26th November 2011
bertie look at my messages....
they also had a son
Name: Henry Frederick Kingcome
Event: CHRISTENING
Event Date: 04 May 1857
Event Place: Clifton, St Andrew, Gloucestershire, England
Father: John Kingcome
Mother: Rosa Kingcome
Film Number: 4191932
Digital Folder Number: 4191932
Image Number: 00516
Name: Henry Frederick Kingcome
Event: BURIAL
Event Date: 17 Aug 1865
Event Place: Clifton, St Andrew, Gloucestershire, England
Gender:
Age: 8
Film Number: 4185852
Digital Folder Number: 4185852
Image Number: 00091 -
Message 14
Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Saturday, 26th November 2011
The information you have found me is all looking good, thanks once again for your help.
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Message 15
Posted by jc (U1902680) on Saturday, 26th November 2011
1851
Name: John Kingcaine
[John Kingcome]
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Nephew
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Fowey, Cornwall, England
Civil parish: Clifton
Town: Clifton
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image
Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: Clifton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 224
Piece: 1952
Folio: 33
Page Number: 59
Household Members: Name Age
Henry E Glazebrook 46
Elizabeth Glazebrook 50
Emma Grazebrook 1
Anne Hearth 79
Eliza Kingcaine 32
Fred Kingcaine 31
Emily Kingcaine 24
John Kingcaine 21
Sarah Kingcaine 18
John C Seale 13
Theresa England 11
Rosa Villiers
Charlotte Mills 25
Ann Cock 31
Mary Gooier 26
Thomas Cannon 28
RG9; Piece: 548; Folio: 118; Page: 3; -
Message 16
Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Saturday, 26th November 2011
Thank you JC getting more of a picture now of this part of the family.
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Message 17
Posted by jc (U1902680) on Saturday, 26th November 2011
Anne Hearth 79 <<< she is aunt but it looks like her name could be HEWIT on the census image, you might want to take a look at it.
John Kingcome is in Dover in 1861 but not found him in 1871 yet -
Message 18
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Saturday, 26th November 2011
1841 possible - father is a ship broker.
I see he married one of the shop girls
Name: John Kingcome
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Gender: Male
Civil parish: Charles The Martyr
Hundred: Roborough
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Plymouth
Sub-registration district: Charles the Martyr
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 271
Book: 11
Folio: 12
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Kingcome 45
Mary Kingcome 45
Mary Kingcome 17
Emily Kingcome 15
John Kingcome 12
Sarah Kingcome 8 -
Message 19
Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Saturday, 26th November 2011
Thanks so much for taking the time to help. This family is not always easy as they often change back to the surname Kingcombe and vice versa.
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Message 20
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Saturday, 26th November 2011
1871???? This man is a dentist!
Name: John Kingcombe
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Fowey, Cornwall, England
Civil parish: Hammersmith
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St Paul Hammersmith
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 75
Piece: 62
Folio: 38
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Clayton 53
Ann Clayton 53
Mary Howard Clayton 23
Francis Courtney Clayton 21
John Kingcombe 41
Emanuel Thompson 24
James Mitchell 19
Mary Ann Arnold 24
Charles Crichley 19
JOhn dies 5 December 1880, address Cross Hill, Cavendish Road Brondesbury (formerly of Clifton), with probate to Rosa the Relict and one of the executors, Estate under £18000 -
Message 21
Posted by bishenbertie (U13222350) on Saturday, 26th November 2011
One of my Kingcombe men is a surgeon a few years later can you imagine
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