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Posted by rosalba (U4525566) on Monday, 16th May 2011
Hello
I was in a public area at the weekend and I came across an absolutley stunning rose
It was yellow - golden, and the shape was somewhere between hybrid tea and old fashioned shape with many many petals
The fragrance was fruity - like rasberry and lemon
it was quite a bushy shrub, with many many flowers
The thing I liked most about it was the colour, golden yeallow but overlaid/stained with bright pink, rather like peace but more striking
Any ideas what this could be? I have been googling but no luck so far
many thanks
Golden celebration?
Hi figrat, thanks for your repsonse
I have googled golden celebration and the shape/form looks about right but I cant see any pink on it, this rose was very heavily stained with pink
Hi,
There is another one called" Glowing Peace."This has plnkish tinges on the edges of the petals.
Sheila's perfume?
Lady Emma Hamilton or Teasing Georgia - both David Austin so even if they're not exactly right at least you know they're bred for disease resistance and perfume.
Thanks figrat and obelixx ive googled your suggestions and sadly it doesnt seem to be any of those, im quite taken by the one I saw so will keep investigating
sorry abottsmillmo thanks to you too
Rose Des Cisterciens?
Thanks figrat but its not that one
I would say it looks more like an english rose in form and the pink looks like a stain on top of the yellow
'Chinatown' has always been a popular rose with the description you give. I used to grow it years ago. Here is a photo:-
Thanks for posting the picture Salino, thats a very pretty rose, but its not the one, it seems a lot looser with less petals, thanks though
sunny abundance aka sunny spring?
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Posted by mister-grow-it-all (U14591945) on Monday, 16th May 2011
was it like this this
Hi figrat and mister grow it all, thanks for posting, im afraid its neither of those though
It has a similar form to this
but its a shrub with golden yellow flower, and then each petal has a pink stain over the top (like its been sprayed)
Thanks so much for trying to help me identify it, I really appreciate it
Gloire de Dijon?
Maigold?
Hi Jemula and Couchee, thanks for posting, its not either of those. Its a much stronger yellow, with a strong pink wash over the top
Morning rosalba,
Try Googling , rosebuddies a to z .
You could be lucky and find the one you have been looking for. Mo.
Thanks Mo, I have been googling for days now but no luck so far. Im begining to think its probably time to stop being obsessive over it. Im hoping to go to Hampton Court Flower show, maybe I will see it there!
It's fun browing Google looking at roses.
Here's a nice one, Pure Poetry:
What do you want next: more petals... more compact centre... more yellow... more pink... less pink... more pink in the middle...
Find out who owns the public area and ask them the name of the rose. If they don't know it themselves the garden contractor will and they can put you in touch.
Might spoil Gary's fun though.
Obelixx just beat me to it... I was about to suggest that if you saw this rose in a public place, simply ring up whoever looks after the place, or E-mail, and ask.
If you go to Hampton Court, do the exhibitors there really have such a wide variety. Isn't it mostly new varieties being launched, or just the more popular and saleable varieties that are on display.
There is the National Rose collection, based in Hertfordshire. They have 2500 different varieties on show. This is the best time of year to visit a place like that, as the roses will all be in flower (maybe in a couple of weeks time).
Thanks Obelixx and Gary
I did try enquiring at the park, but I think they thought I was nuts!
Gary that picture you posted isnt it, there were more petals, and that looks red, this was pink, and was like a pink wash all over the rose, rather then just the outside petals. Thanks for the link Gary, and what you said about Hampton Court makes perfect sense. I dont think I will be able to get to Hertfordshire, but perhaps I could get to Wisley, they have lots of roses there.
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Posted by mister-grow-it-all (U14591945) on Wednesday, 18th May 2011
may be Champagne Cocktail not my photos
, in reply to message 25.
Posted by mister-grow-it-all (U14591945) on Wednesday, 18th May 2011
may be Champagne Cocktail not my photos
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secound should have been this
Thanks mister grow it all but its not that, it has many more petals
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Posted by mister-grow-it-all (U14591945) on Wednesday, 18th May 2011
is it fully double the centre of the flowers are petals
yes its is fully double, the fragrance is delicous, like rasberry and lemon
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There's a plant-finder website, called 'HelpMeFind', just for roses, peonies and clematis.
It has a very sophisticated search, so you can search for exact combinations of colours and form, etc, etc. However, you have to be a paid member to do a complex search. I tried the very simple (free) search, and didn't get very far.
You can however, also look at the contents using Google images.
Try this:
You'll see how it works, and can tune it appropriately.
With all this detective work going on, I wonder if there's a rose called Sherlock Holmes!
Good grief!
hmm - I think I have this rose in my front garden? I have no idea what it is called as it came with the house (I am renting), but I absolutely adore it, as it smells nothing like a rose, but like the original poster said fruity and fresh and it is bright yellow - not in your face yellow, more a vanilla shade, but not pastel at all and has lovely pink stains to the leaves.
Will try and take a picture and upload it, then you can tell me if it is the same one.
These are the bloom definitions used by HelpMeFind:
single (4-8 petals)
single to semi-double
semi-double (9-16 petals)
semi-double to double
double (17-25 petals)
very double
full (26-40 petals)
moderately full
very full (41+ petals)
And these are additional keywords (if you can understand what they mean):
borne mostly solitary
in bundles
cluster-flowered
in small clusters
in large clusters
button-eye
classic hybrid tea
cupped
cupped-to-flat
exhibition
expanded
flat
flat to cupped
fluted petals
formal
globular
high-centered
high-centered to cupped
high-centered to flat
nodding or "weak neck"
old-fashioned
open
pinpoint centers
pompom
prickly receptor
quartered
reflexed
rosette
rounded
ruffled
scalloped
semi-globular
spiral centers
urn-shaped
Could be the David Austin rose, Jubilee Celebration, which is described on HelpMeFind as Salmon-pink, yellow reverse. Strong, lemon, raspberry fragrance. 41 petals. Average diameter 3.5". Large, very full (41+ petals), in small clusters bloom form. Blooms in flushes throughout the season.
I've noticed that many bi-coloured or multi-coloured roses can look different at different times of the year and in different gardens, so it can be helpful to look at all the photos of a particular rose on HelpMeFind.
Dear Gary, Jemula, figrat, and bubbleworks
Thank you very much for your postings
Gary, thanks so much for the helpmefind info, and all the help with descriptions, I am having lots of fun looking up rose pictures!! Figrat, I must say I am finding this thread very enjoyable as I do enjoy a bit of sleuthing, how fantastic that there is Sherlock Holmes rose!! Thanks Bubbleworks, a picture would be great, I would love to see if its the same rose as I am looking for! Jemula, I dont think its Jubilee Celebration, although that is on my list of must haves, this rose seemed alot more yellow, having said thatt you are right about roses looking different at different stages, different gardens, aspects etc, I guess thats why my search really is an impossible task.
Thank so much to all who have contributed so far
One last guess and then give up! - Well Being (Harkness).
I love these guessing games!
I originally posted message 30 but had to get it removed as put up wrong photo.
Anyway, I feel sure this is an Austin rose from the description of shape and scent, I did think of 'The Pilgrim' as the buds are overlaid with pink but it opens to a clear lemon yellow, so now I think it's 'Charles Darwin' which has pink on the outer petals and a strong lemony scent.
Thanks for further postings
Jemula, I did think it might be well being but having googled it I dont think so, well being doesnt seem as pink and also the petals look a little frilly
Salino, I dont think its Charles darwin either as its a brighter/richer yellow
Thanks to all for trying, ive had great fun trying to sleuth this
Hallo Rosalba
Could it possibly be Westerland?
hello Jollymrsowl, thanks for your posting, no its not Westerland, the one im looking for isnt orange really, its more of a golden yellow with a pretty pink stain over the top of it
There are so many yellow roses it can only be guesswork, but you might be interested in this one, it's called 'Well Being' and it has a lovely citrus scent. My local rose nursery stocks it and I was pondering whether to get one. The pink appears as the flowers age.
Thanks Salino, I looked at well being too but I dont think the petals are the same.
Could it be "Double Delight"?
Rose des Cisterciens is buttery-yellow, with pink splash all over, though it doesn't have as many petals as the requirement.
This montage shows the variety of its forms:
I suggested that one a couple of weeks ago, but the lady said no! But your pics are better than the ones I found...
Never heard of that one Gary (and figrat).
It looks stunning and so many different forms.
S
Hello
Thanks but its not Rosedes Cisterciens or double delight, but thanks so much for trying!
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