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Posted by daniel (U14760894) on Sunday, 23rd January 2011
i'm moving into a new house, hopefully, sometime soon and really want to get a nice smelly climber growing up the side of the house, i looked and saw that wisteria is good for bees.
how old does a new plant need to be so that it'll flower the same year, i've seen some on the internet that are 3 years old and would of thought they'd flower, also if anyone knows of a good company that sells good quality plants i'd really appreciate a number
many thanks for any help
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That is a difficult question to answer. Your best bet would be to go to a specialist supplier or really good garden centre and buy one of at least 3 years old which has already flowered (perhaps even only buy one when it is actually in flower.) 6 or 7 years ago, I decided to try and grow from seed. They are now two very healthy Wisteria and are pruned properly (essential) but only one has flowered so far, and the colour/smell was disappointing, so I'd suggest you get a named variety which has been propagated from a cutting. Be aware that there is a new pest from Asia (wisteria scale) which is very damaging, so check any plant you buy for this. Details on the RHS site:
Cheers -- Bob
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Because it is going to be a special plant for a special place, I would buy it as seen, in flower, from a garden centre. That way I wouldn`t be taking any chances.
I don`t think you`ll have any trouble finding a garden centre that has them in stock.
The GCs near me always have lovely specimens in stock in early summer.
Last year the local nursery had a lovely display of wisterias. They had different sizes, and I think they were priced at around £20 and about £40. Not cheap, but you could see, and smell, exactly what you were getting.
Just one thing to add, the flowers of a wisteria are magnificent, but the flowering period is brief.
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many thanks for the replies, there are quite a few garden centres round here ie Wyevale and Dobbies so hopefully they should have a decent plant, do they flower again later in the year?
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I don`t think that they can bloom twice in the same year. I pass one regularly on my way into town, it has been growing on the side of a house for years. It looks great when it`s in bloom, but I`ve never seen it have a second flush of flowers.
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The Chinese wisteria (Wisteria sinensis), has a second flowering in august, also there is an American wisteria (Wisteria frutescens) that only flowers during the summer like a rose on new growth.
Really there is a bewildering range of plants to choose from, W. sinensis is very reliable, easy to prune, flowers soon after planting, however some enthusiasts think them common.
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There is also the problem of, whether the plant you buy is correctly labelled.
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I just pruned the roots a huge garden wysteria outside the front door, and surrounded the tap root and others with rockery rocks.
The one thing I did notice about a shrub about 90 years old, and now ready for 50 more, is that it had a good quantity of lime around the roots dating back a good many years.
I understand they are lime loving trees, and that may be the cause of this one's success.
I moved one set of roots by division and although it had a marvellous long root to it, has not done at all well, although still just alive. Perhaps if i get some lime and spread it around those replanted roots it will spring in to life as a new bush.
I did not do that yet, and it may be the cause of its failure so far.
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Well if it works for you, however my experience differs. Possibly it is not lime but old mortar which decays to be rich in plant foods and that the wisteria has really rooted much deeper into a different soil. Wisteria are part Fabaceae which is the new name for legumes and so like a neutral soil. Certainly the lime like compound would of provided drainage, as legumes cannot stand sitting in water. I find wisteria grown in very calcareous soil develop yellow leaves as a result.
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Rotted metres deep certainly, and metres across to my certain knowledge, but not lime you say, hib.
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Argghh ; rOOted metres deep. Sorry.
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Posted by margaretstar (U14415248) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011
Yes on all levels Gaarda, both deep and shallow Hereisabee usually knows what he's talking about
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