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Posted by rosalba (U4525566) on Tuesday, 22nd September 2009
Dear All
I have just found these clematis online - they are fragrant and apparentley smell of hawthorn/almond, which I adore!
I just wondered if anyone here has any experience with these clematis? are they as fragrant as I read? are they easy to keep in check?
many thanks
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I don't grow this myself but I do know it's a group 3 so gets pruuned back to about 12 to 18 inches every spring and will then grow about 3 or 4 metres every year once its roots get established. It has an RHS AGM - award of garden merit - so you can expect the perfume to be as good as it says.
If you do get one, soak the pot well to eliminate air bubbles then plant it 4" deeper than it was in its pot in a generous hole prepared with plenty of compost and some bonemeal for its roots. Give it a handful of pelleted chicken manure in spring and some organic slug pellets to keep the perishers from chomping its new shoots.
As with any clematis, it may take a season or two to settle in and get to its full glory.
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thanks Obelixx for your helpful reply
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Posted by FellowCuckoo (U8523852) on Tuesday, 22nd September 2009
I have clematis triternata rubromarginata planted through a Gertrude Jekyll rose and on upwards on the house wall at the front of the house. I fell in love with it when I saw it at Sissinghurst. It's a lovely, delicate flower and a very prolific flowerer.
Thanks for the Group 3 pruning info. I haven't got round to thinking about pruning it yet! I planted mine last autumn and it has put on a lot of growth this season. The one I saw at Sissinghurst was clothing a very tall wall. I haven't noticed the smell although anything near the rose would be over-powered.
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Not sure about the scent - I've never thought to sniff at it, but Clematis flammula gets smothered in masses of flowers really late for me - early September - so it's valuable as a late flowering climber.
It was recommended to me by GiantTrowel (Bob) who loves it to bits - and he knows his plants.
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Both good plants, but as someone said, not so sure about the scent. Flammula may well be scented, but do not think the other one is. When it stops raining I will have to go and take a sniff to see!
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thanks for all the replies, and thanks Bergill - would really appreciate you having a sniff for me as im not convinced you can trust websites!
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Rubramarginata does have a smell- a delicate vanilla one. I had one, it's not too big either so would be loverly on a trellis near a seating area. J.
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Must have a better sense of smell than me, I tried both of them and while there is a vague scent I would not call either of them aromatic. Worth growing even so.
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thanks Bergill - really appreciate you doing that!
I am disappointed but not surprised with the verdict, thses websites can exaggerate. Does anyone know how it may compare with armandii, in terms of fragrance?
thanks
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Posted by FellowCuckoo (U8523852) on Wednesday, 23rd September 2009
Ah, now I am on safer ground! You can smell armandii miles away (slight exaggeration there, but you get the idea)!
Flowers at a different time to rubromarginata though. It's a winter flowerer. Ideal on a protected wall for those grotty days.
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I would like to ping this to see if there are any more opinions out there on flammula and triternata Rubromarginata, especially regarding scent! Many thanks
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Hi Rosalba,
I have grown Triternata Rubromarginata in two gardens now. The first garden it was grown up a fence along with two non scented climbing roses. On warm summer evenings the scent could be quite strong and could be detected as soon you entered the garden from the back gate (which is was about 10ft away) although it was in a very warm sheltered spot (which it likes). So I have also planted it in my new garden, two years ago. It's growing through a large lilac (along with two other clematis) and reaches the top (15ft) so it can grow quite strongly but it doesn't get out of hand. I haven't noticed the scent as much in the new garden, but thats probably due to where it's growing (more exposed).
I first saw it growing at Alnwick gardens and liked it so much I bought it there and then and still love it now.
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Many thanks Diggersean, thats very helpful! It really appeals to me as I love vanilla/almond scents in the garden. I think I will plant one next to my clematis polish spirit or etoille viollette.and It should be easy to prune being a group 3.
Would you describe it as red or purple? I have seen conflictiing descriptions.
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I'd say more reddy/ pink with a pale centre. The flowers aren't large but it makes up for that with the amount produced.
Good choice with either partner. Have you thought of planting it with two other Clematis? Maybe Polish spirit but with another addition like Purpurea Plena Elagans? They all flower at the same time and have relatively similar vigours so none will out compete the other. Just a thought
And, like you say, the pruning of all 3 would be fairly easy.
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Many thanks Diggersean, good idea to grow 3 together, I will look into that. I was also thinking of adding a climbing rose but that would make pruning a bit difficult so actually a third clematis would probably be better. I may also try out flammula because I like white flowers, if anyone has any feedback on flammula I would be very grateful.
Many thanks
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My favourite clematis supplier tells me that Flammula can be difficult to establish so he recommends Terniflora instead. See here for pics and description -
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Thanks for the tip Obelixx!
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