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Suggestions for trees

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  Posted by EMILY (U2398399) on Tuesday, 29th November 2005

  This is a genuine design question!
  Our garden is long and narrow, divided into 2 to separate dog from veggie bit. We have trees down partway of one side but nowhere else. I would love to have a backdrop of trees, but because of the sun's position they would cast too much shadow over the veg plot. So, to compromise we have decided to plant just one, this would block out the view of next-doors shed!
  Goldilocks suggested Sorbus Cashmeriana as a suitable specimen when I posted a thread about trees ages ago, if you read this goldilocks do you think it would be o.k for this purpose? I don't want it to cast too much shade because we already have more than our fair share and the garden is very damp.
  If anyone else has any suggestions please....we have heavy clay soil, much improved on what it used to be, something with not too dense a canopy, and perhaps nice to look at during the winter . Thanks Emily

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  Posted by William (U2169036) on Tuesday, 29th November 2005

  Pollarded coral willow "salix britzensis" aka "salix alba britzensis" or "salix alba vitellina 'britzensis'" - pollarded every 3-4 years on a stem of 150-200 cm
  
  

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  Posted by EMILY (U2398399) on Tuesday, 29th November 2005

  Have just checked this one William, lovely tree , but it requires full sun and where I want to put it is shaded by a fence. It would be o.k. when it got a bit bigger, also at this time of the year because the sun is lower it would be in the shade of the house. Definately worth considering, thanks for the suggestion.

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  Posted by William (U2169036) on Tuesday, 29th November 2005

  If you can get a 3 meter stake from someone who already has one you could use that as a cutting. Recipe, 2-3 meter stake 5-8 cm thick at base (say 2-4 years old growth. "Drill a 50-75 cm deep holi in your clay. Put a chissle like point at the end off the stake. Scar the bottom bit of the bark (strips of about 50 cm) to stimulate root growth. Drive stake into hole (15-25 cm deeper than the hole)
  
  Enjoy....
  
  I'm still on the lookout for a cutting like that..... Even if it would mean removing some of the ordinary salix alba's I've put in last year.
  
  And you're right willows (especially pollarded ones) need quite some light. Putting them in deep full shade won't work...

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  Posted by tackincrackle (U2322562) on Tuesday, 29th November 2005

  Hi Emily
  
  I asked this question a few weeks ago of Goldilocks for my 'soon to be' new house !! and he also suggested a rowan. Try 'Josephs Coat', I looked it up on the web and it definately found its way onto my list of plants to get.
  
  Crackin'

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  Posted by biggsy11 (U2561465) on Tuesday, 29th November 2005

  Emily
  By far the best tree I have ever planted without a doubt is Prunus serrula, it can grow to 10m with the right conditions, but I have never seen one bigger than about 6m. It has the most wonderful copper bark, is deciduous, has a very sparse canopy & on my clay soil it looks fantastic, oh yeah the birds love it, as they can get in & out easy.
  Its absolutely perfect for a small garden!
  Paul

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  Posted by Juliet (U2196646) on Tuesday, 29th November 2005

  I think Amelanchier canadensis ticks all the boxes except nice to look at in winter - I have one in shade on clay soil - not too big, beautiful blossom in spring, berries in summer which the birds go mad for, glorious autumn colour. Only drawback is it's deciduous & looks pretty bare in winter.

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  Posted by EMILY (U2398399) on Wednesday, 30th November 2005

  Thanks all for suggestions, will google for pics and more details. Much depends on what I can get locally, I always have a list when I go to nurseries but never manage to get much ticked off!!

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