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Marcus Brigstock is like the character The Reverend John Hale
in Arthur Miller's play The Crucible; eager and idealistic, an expert on witchcraft. But like Hale he will wait till the end of the play, when it is too late, before he realises that it is not reasonable to let a man die because he cannot get the entire text of Dulce et decorum est into a comedy routine.

I have never been a big fan of comedians using comedy to sell their politics, or using politics to sell their comedy, or whatever it is! But in this week's show Marcus reached the true height of idiocy in this task (whichever way round it is) And it's a shame, because he is a good bloke, and certainly not an idiot.

At 9:13pm on 03 Dec 2010, John Hassett wrote:

I have never been a big fan of comedians using comedy to sell their politics, or using politics to sell their comedy, or whatever it is! But in this week's show Marcus reached the true height of idiocy in this task (whichever way round it is) And it's a shame, because he is a good bloke, and certainly not an idiot.
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Plato (429BC) stated: 鈥淐omedy is an imitation of the common errors of our life, which he representeth in the most ridiculous and scornful sort that may be; so as it is impossible that any beholder can be content to be such a one. Now, as in Geometry, the oblique must be known as well as the right, and in Arithmetick the odd as well as the even, so in the actions of our life who seeth not the filthiness of evil wanteth a great foil to perceive the beauty of virtue.鈥�

Source: The Growth and Structure of Elizabethan Comedy by M C Bradbrook, p.39

I notice you ignored my first paragraph. But this isn't even a response to my second one. Marcus isn't a seeker after truth, he is a polemicist, which is fine. I just prefer to separate it from comedy. Best wishes.

3. At 6:58pm on 04 Dec 2010, John Hassett wrote:
I notice you ignored my first paragraph. But this isn't even a response to my second one. Marcus isn't a seeker after truth, he is a polemicist, which is fine. I just prefer to separate it from comedy. Best wishes.
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On 04 Dec 2010, Mavarine Du-Marie wrote:

John Hassett, separating a character from a play, with the occupation of a Reverend, to reform his traits to be liken to be Marcus Brigstock, and as such you find him to be a polemic with the aptitude of a Comic also, would not be that far fetched it seems to you.

So if not separating Marcus Brigstock from religion, as you care not to do, but yet to be found wanting to separate comedians from politics, seems a little antilogous; as also to be polemical.

However, John Hassett, you were spell-bound to listen entirely to Brigstock, and left as a man wanting not to die, that you wrote with such rectitude to tell us hereso. Thus this brief reply forthwith a few extracted lines of Dulce et decorum est, that might ease your plight of Brigstock鈥檚 comic delight:

鈥溾��.Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest鈥︹��

As verily I, myself, find most comics to be consilient, which is, agreeing in inferences drawn from different premises. Hence the theme of The Now Show this week episode three of nudge, nudge, wink, wink, herewith extracted and blog protracted.

Best wishes also.

I didn't separate a character from a play. I made an analogy between Marcus and Hale, and one which I think stands up well and has nothing to do with religion. Your linking of religion and politics doesn't make sense; Marcus is a polemicist, but there is nothing wrong with that! I just don't like it in comedy.

I'm sorry that you think I "wrote with rectitude" but I'm not giving Marcus any competition on the rectitude front! And I will try not to make my comments seem like "vile, incurable sores" in future.

As for your last comment, this discussion isn't about the skills of comedians, which I have always respected and admired.

Take care.

5. At 00:03am on 05 Dec 2010, John Hassett wrote:
Your linking of religion and politics doesn't make sense; Marcus is a polemicist, but there is nothing wrong with that! I just don't like it in comedy.
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On 05 Dec 2010, Mavarine Du-Marie wrote:

John Hassett, I only draw upon a few words to thee and others, such as an Alexander Pope couplet:

Wit is like faith by such warm Fools profest
Who to be saved by one, must damn the rest.

As to "faith" religion, "fools profest" politics, "saved by one" a polemicist comic to render it into a comedy.

Take care too.

WOW!!! You can tell this is Radio 4 Comedy purely on the quality of the comments on this piece. Over in 麻豆社 Sport the comments are largely made up of "my team is better than yours". As a nineteen year old music tech student who loves a good piece of stand up, Marcus Brigstocke (please spell it correctly Maverine and John) is a delight to listen to and is a large contributory factor to me discovering both the Now Show and the News Quiz. I'm not clever enough to retort to either of you using poetry or literature but i will retort using a little philosophy, namely my own. Marcus Brigstocke is one of the funniest British men alive and regardless of the topic, be it politics, religion, the environment- anything really, if he is making me laugh, thereby improving my saturday evening while listening to the podcast, he is doing his job and doing it well. He isn't doing silly things like slapstick (which admittedly has limited radio effectiveness), he isn't causing great controversy or offending large groups of people with casual racism. Lay off the man over his topics of choice. It's topical, funny, inoffensive and unlikely to have negative effects on people's view of the 麻豆社. That is pretty much the embodiment of the Now Show as a whole. Lighten up, if you let comedy get you down, i can only assume you have a very exciting and fun life the rest of the time.

7. At 11:18am on 07 Dec 2010, ndear wrote:

As a nineteen year old music tech student who loves a good piece of stand up, Marcus Brigstocke (please spell it correctly Maverine and John)


On 07 Dec 2010, Mavarine wrote:

Corrigendum:
(an error that is to be corrected in a printed work after publication)

MARCUS BRIGSTOCKE

JOHN HASSETT

MAVARINE DU-MARIE

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Now the names, thus so far mentioned on the 鈥楤lessed Tribute鈥�, regarding the content within the former blog posts of comments are spelt correctly. Ndear.

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